is the entry ban data disappear automatically from SIS? How many days were you given on your visa? You could get stopped at the border and they might have a talk with you. (Booo). The bilateral agreement negates the 90/180 rule and if I were to leave from a different Schengen country I would be in clear violation of the agreement. Or would I have taken up the ninety days, since I would be using them when going to Iceland to wait for my permit to be approved? I went to the Netherlands in December, but entered Schengen through Iceland because of a layover. It would be great to get a clearer picture of the Poland situation! If Spain deports you to your home country, chances are you will also be paying a fine. If i was to then leave the Schengen area after the 90 days have expired, being an Slovakian citizen (but NOT having a Slovakian passport yet), would that still be considered overstaying? And if so, in your opinion, would it likely be enough of a grey area that I could get away without any penalties or bans? She waited for it in Europe even though she had to do it in our home country because as a marriage we didnt wanted to be separated and we were confident that after a few months, the decision would have been positive. Also relevantly, I had to replace my passport about 6 weeks ago, so what I have is clean (like 4 stamps two of which are to and from Boston about 4 weeks ago). Just dont overstay in Schengen! Hey AJ! , Hi Lindsey, I am so lucky to chance upon your blog and it was indeed optimistic and an eye opener for me! and the fact he is going to the UK rather than back to NZ do you think that could be an issue? They will send you on the next flight back to where you came from. Unsure if this idea is feasible hence any advice from you would be greatly appreciated! Just make sure you do not go over 90 days again! Heres my story. Otherwise, you can also look into hiring an immigration lawyer. We are very concerned for her stress and anxiety levels and need to help her out. After that I have been given report in Latvian language, and asked to pay 50 administrative fee in bank, which I did. If you get a new passport, you will need to bring your old passport with the visa with you. Here is a summary on my visa situation in Spain: I am currently living in Madrid on a 6 month student visa. Hi Jackie! The only problem to solve it is to abide by the rules of your visa to avoid overstaying for next entry. My wife and I are Chinese so we need visa. The expiration of the Schengen visa will be on Nov 2019. A few years ago a man posted on this subject. Chill and take a deep breath. @Mike you said the man told me that i wasnt alowwed back into spain for 5 years. Im not concerned about getting back into Europe any time soon, or the potential fine, my concern is getting a black mark on my passport that may cause New Zealand officials to turn me away when i get there, even though I have a NZ Visa. Hello Friends. Hi Raafat Many people dont hear about the results of what can happen for an overstay, so much appreciated for sharing your story. We were flying directly from Rome to Romania because I got a job teaching at a Montessori school in October. Hey there! Tara. I have a good job in the US, and have to maintain my residency here as well, so I would NEVER purposely overstay as I have a life here too. She told me that it wont be a problem to stay, even if I dont apply for the residency yet, as a wife if Greek citizen, I have privilege. But maybe since Im leaving from Barcelona Ill be okay?? I know of two cases. Would you please provide me the repercussions if the do decide to leave italy 4 days after the validity of my tourist visa. It is not legal advice but is provided freely to enable you to be properly informed. How many days before Schengen visa expires can I travel? If you have overstayed by one day or 8 months, the fine could still be the same depending on the officer. There really isnt anything to fix this other than leaving 4 days earlier. But for anybody who is in a similar situation here in Poland. The period covered by the survey coincides with the tortuous negotiations between the UK and Brussels over Brexit as well as a period of political and economic turmoil in the UK which has been partly blamed on Britains hard divorce from the EU. And because I was scared to leave home for Christmas and not being allowed back I stayed in Spain. And I will check out the link about opening a business in Spain because I might want to get that going concurrently. This would helponly any paperwork proving that you applied for the Carte de sjour, but then got denied? The 180-day period keeps rolling, thus, anytime a traveller wishes to enter the Schengen zone, he/she just have to count backwards the last 180 days, and see if they have been present in the Schengen Zone for more than 90 days throughout that period. We offer full engineering support and work with the best and most updated software programs for design SolidWorks and Mastercam. Should she leave Lisbon pronto for the UK or is it okay to wait until early November? I read so many ans which you give reply to pples and its very much helpful actually. Thanks for taking the time to write in. Sweden is very strict on visas and will most likely ask him to leave if he does not leave himself first. The city hall just say okay when we decided like that, and give our documents back plus sponsorship letter for my tourists visa ( since I decided after married will directly going to Belgium again with my husband) and because the city hall said its better way than waiting for decisions again here. AH, I see. Have you heard of people with overstaying issues being able to get the NIE work visa regardless? We waiting until February for that, but suddenly in the end of February they said we cannot married because of my visa already revoked, we asking what we must do after that, they city hall said they will send my visa case to immigration in Brussels to let them decided that I can stay and continue my married process or not. I should also note that I returned for the US for Christmas before coming back here and entering 5 days before said expiration date in mid January. Hello! So best stick to non-Schengen. The following letter was from a reader who wanted to share her experience of overstaying a tourist visa in Spain. My problem is this a family of American friends came to Portugal in February last, they entered portugal as tourists so the 90 day rule applied to them. I was thinking of going from Italy to England, stay in England two weeks then go to Paris a few days before my flight home, and just avoid London airports, but now I didnt realise they would pull you up for Schengen in England too! There were no checks at either border crossing, it was like driving from state to state. Will I have overstayed if I stick to that plan? But it depends on what country you are entering and exiting. Ive heard its an easier exit. You cannot apply for a short stay visa if you have been illegal for the past 8 months. I arrived Dec 2nd and from my understanding I will need to get my permit processed and approved before applying for a visa all of which should be approved before my 91st day here. And now, with the refugee crisis, I know they are a bit stricter with their borders. You could always leave 2 days earlier to be 100% you wont get stopped. Or are you choosing to have Corona as an excuse? I am so afraid. Hello! I think he will be fine but he will absolutly need to stay out of Schengen for 90 days. I flew into London from Berlin on January 4 the first time but did not get any stamps in Berlin. So, just to clarify in a simple way: If I have been out of the Schengen for 90 days, then I am good to re-enter for an additional 90 days? My only tip is to enter Europe after your 90 days outside have passed Try Portugal. However, while I was leaving from Poland I was notified that I have an overstay, referring to that duration of stay for 60 days applies for every last 180 days. Tickets are expensive and I wonder if the risk of overstaying by a single day is worth it? If you are denied on a basis of your overstay, then you can just appeal and explain your situation, and hope they will agree. Thanks heaps. Legal Advisor Alicia Grate from IOM sought to reassure Karen in Burgos who was worried that she might break the 90-day rule after her application was rejected. They just detain to ask questions, or they hold you up right there and ask questions. I explained that we did a mistake that we thought I could stay for 6 months. In one country I have read about, for example, an overstay of 1-30 days gets you a 3 year ban and an overstay of over 30 days results in a 5 year ban. Any advice? You would be put in a tricky situation more on a moral basis potentially lying on official documents (not advisable!). So you should be fine. Just be mindful of the rules this time! My biggest concern isnt a ban, but that Germany would not let you back into the country because of the overstay and the lack of a decision on your processing visa, and most likely no exit ticket, etc. So they fine me 110 and asked me where u now came. I recently went to Spain for an Au Pair job. You could really mess up your future travel/visas if caught overstaying because it goes into the system (even if you pay a fine only). You should be fine. how he can leave Spain to have less problem like to be baned or to not receive the visa for the future? I know of a valley north of Lienz, Austria that I'd love to build a house in--for part time living. I have money saved to last me about 6 months. Hi Nima! As an expatriate living in Spain; do you find that the Spanish bureaucratic system I know it was a few years ago but I would really appreciate it. We are traveling with two young kids, both holding US passports so visa is not an issue for them. I understand how difficult the situation can be when law needs to come Before love If you have overstayed your Schengen visa, youre definitely going to have some issues because in order to get married in Spain, you need to get authorities involved, and provide proof of your legality and residence in Spain. There is no problem for you now and future too. 12 months ago we flew from Russia to the Netherlands (she entered on a 90 days Schengen visa). And just so you know, you dont have to get married to come live with your boyfriend in Sweden! Get it? Youre correct that since 91, U.S citizens are allowed to enter Poland for any 90 days period without visa (with doing a visa-run to renew the 90 days). Thanks, Hey Reza, your visa should say how many days you are allowed in Schengen. I would say the risk of being banned from a country you love isnt worth the extra month or two. But, i was wrong and i got stopped by Immigration officer. Americans can get away with overstaying a couple days because their visas are not ones you have to apply for. I suggest it, but if you wanna rough it, it is totally possible and hundreds have and are doing it right now! That is how they are counting it. When you approach a customs agent, you will see them slide your passport on a machine in front of them (checking the Schengen Information System or, For more information on how to get a visa and work in Europe, please visit my. If you overstay for a medical extension and you are not medically sick anymore, I am not sure why you would choose to stay longer. Its probably best to leave from a country you have spent the least amount of time in, like Italy. We are planning a 5 week trip in the spring. However, I wish to stay for at least 20 days. Technically, you should have left within 2 weeks of receiving your rejection letter, because on your exit if questioned why you waited an extra month to go home, and your answer is you waited until your fiance went on vacation, that will definitly not be a good enough excuse for them not to fine you this time. Obviously resident visas are put in place for a reason, otherwise wed all have our go at just randomly moving places, and it would be a big mess . Thank you very much. So make sure you know what to say. I decided to over stay my visa and over stayed it by 3 months. I was really surprised. Also, is that any possibilty to solve it? Will you get paid to do this? Im confused by the contradiction of information on the internet and the agency that provide NIE#. So my question is, would it be possible to do that? But depending on what the paper said, this could cause future trouble when applying for new visitor visas. But if I leave Poland directly to the USA then it falls under the terms of bilateral. will they give this information at airport when he is leaving the europe or no? This month I have apply again and I get same 90 days available from 1 June 2017 until 31 may 2018 However, you should speak with your school or an immigration advisor to see if you can submit an application for a short-stay uniform Schengen visa (category C). I wouldnt like that, but I could live with it. Relevant details: none of my flights to and from France between Iceland have ever involved a passport check on either side at least in the three years Ive been here. We would therefore advise UK nationals to direct any queries to the relevant Spanish authority. A couple times I flew out of France and they drilled me, even when I had an EU residence card. Dont do it because nothing is worth that. I'm clearly in violation. Also I heard that few from Egypt have extended they through kuestura. Even if I make it out without a fine, is it possible or likely that I'll be denied entrance on revisiting in, say, a few months' time? My fiancee and I were married earlier this year. I honestly would call the Montenegrin Visa Regime for India and ask them about entering with the U.S. visa. WebYou are prohibited in Spain from parking on a yellow line. I would stop and think for a moment if a Schengen Tourist visa is right for you? I personally called CNAI in Portugal, and they also advised that as long as our daughter had this SEF appointment letter, she would be fine at the Lisbon Airport when she goes to leave Portugal. Will I be able to returndoes Spain system calculate days If I can leave and return, Im hoping the clock resets for a new 90 day stay. Am I technically overstaying? The officer spoke with another officer then made a photocopy of my passport including stamps, he then stamped my passport with the normal exit stamp and sent me on my way. I have a situation that Im looking for a little bit of insight on. Im researching my flight to head back home to the US and Im currently in Budapest. Just put money on your Skype account. I am assuming that the answer is yes and that is why should be a member of our web site if you arent already. If you want to take a photo of the ticket and email it to me, my husband is Greek and can help read it for you . Im a student in Germany and had a German residence permit, which expired in Oct. 2017. Or would I just receive a fine? Fines for exceeding the 90 day visa free period in Greece range from 600 to 1,200. I am currently outside of the EU, but my return to the USA is through the EU with entrance in Finland and exit through Germany. We have registered for the marriage already and got an Appointment for Wedding on July 27. So, I need to travel to EU again, I didnt apply for another visa, simply Im scared to do that, any advice from your side? so if I paid will i still face problems getting visa! Best of luck! If you travel, I suggest going by air because there is no border control from Czech to Paris, and the only thing they ask for is your passport to confirm your identity at check-in. You can also use my Schengen Calculator to help: Hello Lindsey, Thank You for taking the time to reply to all the messages. Glad to help! Its best to book your return ticket ahead of time and bring proof to the airport with you, just in case. i decided to stay from 2013-2015 to help him with the finances. Do you know if I can overstay my residency card? i wanna ask is it possible for me to travel around schengen country (not going outside border) when my visa is already expired? Yet the Immigration didnt say anything when I was leaving or exit. Please take a look at my Schengen calculator to get a better understanding: Im a US citizen traveling to Europe in May. All I want to do is be able to stay until the end of June. I am worried that If I want to get visa again it will make a problem for me. They entered from Frankfurt airport and they will leave from Prague airport next week. As for the German visa, you could have issues, as this is just the consequence for choosing to overstay and is kinda unavoidable if they bring this up. This thread is really helpful to get insight about what things to do and what YOU SHOULD NOT. Hi Lindsey, Anyway, I wish you the best of luck. Obviously, this is silly, and it was not your fault due to the flight. I finished the year as an Auxiliar in Spain, with a student visa. Getting a work permit is a completely different story. Your plan on going to UK on the 31st-2nd is great because you will re-enter Schengen on your 90-day tourist visa. Hello! Being an American citizen, I am rather lucky because I get a free waiver visa throughout basically any country in Europe. I recommend she apply for a working holiday visa in a different country like UK or basically any other Schengen country that has working holiday visas available for Australians. Im in Poland and Ive been here for about 14 months, Im a US citizen andIm living with my fiance (we are in the process of getting her a fiance visa so we can go back stateside). This is because Americans have visa waivers and come from a world power country. My French partner and I want to get married before that (in Denmark as its a hell of a lot less paper work). Usually if you are looking to extend a visa in a country, you cannot leave that country until you get a response from the processing. You need to stay out at least 90 days of Schengen for them not to get suspicious when you re-enter. I was told to speak to an immigration lawyer as I am also looking to get my residence just not exactly sure what a lawyer could possible have the power to do? If you have stayed over the 90 days, unfortunately you are accepting what could happen to you which is being barred from returning for some time on your exit. Im an American who has been living in Spain for the past year and a half on a student visa. However, your family has a Schengen visa with an expiration date for all of Schengennot just Netherlands, so if your family has an exit stamp in their passport that is a date after their Schengen visa expired, that can cause an issue when you fill out new forms and they ask for that information. Im writing to you with a hope u will be able to help me and answer my question about Shengen Visa. All I have in my passport is my entry stamp in Frankfurt last September, along with a student visa that expired 60 days after I entered Spain, as well as my Spanish NIE that expired may 31. and can you maybe give me a solution? I would check with the US Embassy in Bulgaria to see if you can get a tourist visa extension while you wait for the processing. Comment: Hello, I travel to EU a lot with my wife she is Australian , am Moroccan citizen and living in united Arab emirates i have many visa from EU from different country in EU have got my last visa for 90 days available from 20th June 2016 until / 1st June 2017 from embassy of France in Dubai ??? My flight is booked for 14 hours after expiry. 3. Hey George. A month before I leave, I called them And i said that we would not get married and ask the woman if there would be any problem leaving the country or wanting to return, she said no, that everything would be fine. Check the EU Period of Stay Calculator for British Citizens to find out how long you can stay in the EU. I am American citizen, i entered in potrugal. If they catch you a 2nd time overstaying, you could get banned from returning to any Schengen country, not just Spain . But I did a few searches anyway and felt it was an issue. In Sweden, for example, youre not allowed to leave the country while you are awaiting the new type of visa. This is the standard length (for example in case of an overstay of more than 3 months) Your problem is that the family doesnt have a legal excuse for breaking the visa. But I still give the passport back without a stamp, when I realized I returned and asked him to put the stamp because i dont wanted to have problems and it will be proof that I had left the territory. I am wondering, will I have problems with that layover at Gatwick? You can use my Schengen Calculator if you need to calculate the stays: First of all, I would like to thank you for your amazing work Lindsey. Step 2: On the Select the module section, choose either File Number or Citizens of certain countries.. Citizens Advice Bureau is a registered as a Spanish Non-Profit/NPO/ONG organisation. We are going to get married on 27.07. Hello, Mayur here. For example, if I overstay in Spain by 5 days and then fly out (and dont get caught) to Morocco why would Morocco detain me? The thing iswere you forced to stay inside NL because everything was closed? Today I went to extend my visa and it is impossible (because it expired). The EU has issued some general advice on this, encouraging member states to grant visa extensions where necessary and to waive sanctions on people who have overstayed due to travel restrictions. You may not get so lucky the next time. we are just not sure what will happen with my overstayed past. I am seriously anxious over here. There has been a significant decline in support for leaving the European Union within its member states following the United Kingdoms Brexit vote, according to a new survey by the European Social Survey. Happy travels! Hi Lindsey, hope you doing well. Also to add for those reading this & looking to stay in Germany, its good to know Americans are able to register themselves for a residence permit on entry (longer than 90 day stay). Period. Do you think the guy was trying to scare you or did he give you official papers/stamp? anyway, i ended up speaking with the Hungarian Embassy in London and they, like you, said i had no problem leaving Hungary after 4 months of stay but it is still unknown what the correct procedure is for an eu citizen staying there longer than 90 days, at least just as a tourist anyway!! You can try to apply for a tourist visa, but they will have the right to deny you if you have any previous record of overstaying. Thanks in advance, thank you for your post. However, even if you manage to avoid them, your passport will be tagged with an overstay alert making it more challenging for you to return to the EU. I already read on your blog that each country doesnt track entrances and exits of the other country, is that still up to date? Im just worried that they will count my days at passport control when i get my stamp out of Sweden. if your ideology experiences the free speech of others as existential threat, your ideology sucks.. If she did not give you a fine or a special stamp (usually they are triangles), there is nothing that would have flagged you. Despite their differences, in general, the Member States apply the following penalties on those caught overstaying, including on Britons starting from this year: Despite the consequences listed above, some travellers may not be subject to any of them, in particular those who cannot travel for a strong reason that can be proved. Do you have any thoughts on this? One more thing, the immigration office have asked them to leave Germany by December 31, 2018 but my wife claimed that she cant interrupt the kids studying at schools and that they will leave after school year ended June 28, 2018. What will happen, is there anything I can do to fix this? I am an Australian citizen in France at the moment. There will be more than 90 days that have elapsed since I last departed Schengen. If youre not American, ignore this, it probably wont help.). Do you know anything about getting married in Spain to a EU citizen on an expired Visa? Sorry to hear. Wanted to share my experience leaving the EU as an American after an overstay. Im traveling to Croatia next weekis there any way to find out if I have been flagged in the general system? The options I can afford right now are:1) Fly out of Tegel to NYC as planned- Risks as outlined above. Hi Lindsey, I just wanted to make one correction, the SIS which is the system that flags passports doesnt record every time a visa free individual leaves or enters the schengen, so they have to actually page through your passport to get you That being said, individual schengen countries can record this but there is currently no system in place for sharing this information among themselves. You will most likely be told you must leave as soon as possible. I got slammed with questions these months! My ticket for go back to Iran is in 13th June. Any advice? This may be as short as a few months or as long as several years. My advice is: Since he is not a resident in Germany, you should contact the German registry office and ask what they will accept as proof of address in lieu of a Meldebescheinigung. If you overstay 90 days in the EU, you risk deportation. That would be a good idea, if you need a 2nd opinion on it let me know. I have a few questions and I really hope you can help me. Usually, they book appointments that are not within the scope of your visa, but if the application is still processing status, then they can give you permission to stay within the country while its processing. Greece is quite strict. I have a small question I have write to u here before if u remember my name was fahim My previous annual visa expired on July 2, 2018. In July I called and they explained me that unfortunately those 3 months on the visa were to organize my marriage and not an entry limit to Switzerland. According to them, Bilateral takes 1st place, so as long as you abide by those guidelines in theoryYou should be ok leaving, pending you dont layover in another Schengen country. Hello Lindsey, Awesome Site!! Thanks, Thank you for sharing this story. I am looking into further pursuing my German language course and in addition, my boyfriend and myself have plans to get married sometime this year as well, but at the same time, I am still waiting for a reply from the respective language school on any availability date. I Have been legally registered here in Germany with ID number and Proof of address with the amtliche Meldebesttigung. I am thinking about writing a post about the bilateral travel agreements between certain countries. I bid you a good day. There are a lot of issues I see building up in the story you wrote. So if you fly to another Schengen country from Greece, your passport wont be checked by border police. Hey Donna! I have a question, I overstayed for 37 days in France and went out of the shengen zone to Thailand, the cbp officer told me he flagged me and gave me a warning, but he let me go without a fine or a ban, he said right now I cant go back to the European union, he told me to calculate my time since I entered, I first came in on November 1st, left on January 29, and came back with a different passport (dual citizen) and stayed all april and a bit more, so my guess is from when do I start to count? Thats just how it goes. I suggest calling the U.S. embassy in Spain (anonymously) and asking if you are allowed to wait for a work visa to process while you are on your tourist visa, and what happens if the visa is not done processing by the time your tourist visa is up. Anyway, wish me luck on my way back home I just want to go back to my Boston . Hi Lindsey. Have fun! I see Emirate citizens are now part of the visa waiver program for Schengen. 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