Evelyn, out of Jesus own mouth, he said he died for everyone & that ANYONE who believes will be saved. Are people just SKIMMING NT Scripture or really reading it? I believe Paul and all the Apostles continue to teach this in their writings. Those whove accepted Jesus gift of salvation ARE Israel ingrafted through Jesus (from the Israeli tribe of Judah) due to OUR acceptance of Him as our Messiah for our salvation. All 119 is trying to do is truly, unbiasedly challenge believers in Yeshua to test and prove with OT and NT agreement what they believe. In many cases our shared stories were about going to church and then our Dad would sit us down at home afterwards and hed say this is what the priest really meant and it was always about the dad/husband being right and in control. or, Matthew5:17-19, Major Discrepancies in 119 Ministries Teachings. I, as a born again believing Jew, say to Christians everywhere, the exact same thing. My stepping to defend 119 comes from my personal experience in bringing issues with certain teachings and they have gracefully and humbly changed position even publicly. Members of His body of His flesh and of His bones., There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus., But, Spiritual things are foolishness to the natural man because they are spiritually discerned, For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. (Revelation 16:14) Think about that.). My analogy of pleroo is NOT incorrect as you claim, because I made no analogy. Dear Sister, Jesus tells us to keep His commands, what do you think that means? Then there is another Covenant issued by Moses on behalf of the Father. If you read prophecy, you will see the feasts as well as the 7th day Sabbath will be kept in the Millennium. Took with them the true Zoddok priest line. Well then we searched the scriptures, OT, NT and the prophets that spoke what God told them, we see the sabbath & His feasts throughout all times imagine that. The NC Law is the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus; or the Law of Christ which is the Law of love. I just count seven days from each Sabbath. Because if they dont? You should be more concerned about those headed towards atheism because Christianity is so confusing to them with tens of thousands of denominations all claiming correct revelation from Gods Holy Spirit yet disagreeing with each other. You realize that Yahusha said he didnt come to abolish the Torah right? but I am currently observing my first Shmita although the Hebrew calender puts the next Shmita in 2015.. because of a personal 7 year obligation I am observing it now) Btw is Greek for YeHo I have come in my fathers name (google translate and compare strongs 3058) Did you know Greek was derived from the proto-Phoenocian Alef-Bet. We are free from the hard hats and construction gear because all of that pointed to the building in which the owner took on to maintain and manage. I could stop here, but I wont because the subject of 119 Ministries initiated our online discussion. Just out of curiosity, when the members of my people finally decide to accept OUR MESSIAH, which of the over 40,000 Christian denominations best reflects the Messianic Community of the 1st century? They are the ones Im giving your now., Leah this commandment isnt new. Because the point is? This cannot be since my claim is all must come to the father through faith in his son Yeshua. If thats what they hold to be truly the Sabbath, then they break it every weak. These are simply mean spirited accusation meant to discredit instead actually having a dialogue about why someone is doing something different than what you think they should do. In fact, the ketubah or contract is made at the time of betrothal not at the marriage ceremony. (2Pe 3:18) but grow in the favour and knowledge of our Master and Saviour ????? The word COVENANT does not exist in the original Greek or Aramaic manuscripts and so people mistakenly claim this proves the New Covenant supersedes the Old (if you examine every single Covenant in Scripture that God has made you will see that when a new covenant is made it never negates the one that came before it.) Over the years I have spent huge amounts of time talking with the Lord and studying the scriptures! Horrible analogy. Clearly this has not happened yet as people who believe in Christ are living according most of Gods instructions/law AND combining them with man-made doctrines/traditions (laws) made from incorrect interpretation of Scripture. And you know what, Kefa and Yochanan, and the Lord Yeshuas half brother Yaakov (James) would not be so lenient with you as I am right now. Tagged: 119 ministries, hebrew roots, hebrew roots cult, hebrew roots movement, hrm, jim staley, michael rood, torah observance, torah observant . Its not easy, but I feel blessed whenever the truth is brought before my eyes. I do not believe the torah which Abraham obeyed and kept in Genesis 26:5 is the same unchanging torah written finally written for Moses. For if you believe Moses you would believe Me;Luke 22:20for He wrote of Me. ( John 5:44-45) Anyways, this is one more thing God accomplished through Jesus restoration of the original bride-to-be I can detail that in another post if you choose. For the record, I have met, in the last 5-6 years, many lovely HR people who youd likely mistake for the wonderfully emotional joyous evangelicals praising Messiah and the work of the Holy Spirit in their life, or similar to the glorious African-American Baptists ready to sing praises about Yeshua at every opportunity while still keeping whatever part of Gods law that applies to them. What Christendom typically does, it has adopted from Rome taking poetic text literally and literal text being taken allegorically so they can make it mean what they want it to mean. Thus, YHWH did not dismiss the standard of Torah because Israel chose disobedience; rather, He installed a Renewed Covenant to write HIS Torah upon the heart of each of us through the work of the Holy Spirit according to Jesus. 28 With respect to the Good News they are hated for your sake. This is such an opposition to the nature of God. I too am a fellow runner in this race and have struggles and weaknesses like you. Your snarky tone to Peter is not appropriate for he is older than you; his hair is grey with the years as you would have observed if you really saw one of his YouTubes in response to your Controversy Corner with John McKee. She is in submission to her boss, her authority, her head! He has ALREADY bought us a better hope with better promises due to His New Covenant blood offered in heaven for our eternal redemption! There is considerable deceit in this world, yet we are forewarned consistently by Gods Word. Leah Matthew 23:1-3. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them; you might even find yourselves fighting God!. How do you know if you may be caught up in error ? Followers of every religion make similar claims of amazing positive changes in their lives. We really need a Charles Spurgeon nowadays, not ear-ticklers. He doesnt have to tell a group of Jewish men that his words are words given to him long ago by the father when they already know the Torah. I addressed this more fully in my other reply above. 5 As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. These are things of God I will not chastise you for not partaking. With that said I have run into both extremes. Im ex Metodist, ex Southern Baptist, have read 20+ books on Hebrew Roots, listened to most 119 teachings and led my family out of the church. Because of its use in other places in the Gospels the meaning is all those alive at that time. Leah and Everyone I believe in God the Father, God the Son, and the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit). , Here it is: This stranger came up to me and she explained that she could feel Gods presence all over me It was beautiful as we spontaneously entered into a fabulous fellowship! It was a personal conviction by God and His word. ALL. Its pretty easy. Since you opened your mouth. All these teachings take us deeper into the fundamental moral law of YHVH. Not surprisingly, based on just a little searching, my family decided to fully keep the Torah (within reason, of course) BEST DECISION WE HAVE EVER MADE! Have you not read that a jealous husband can take his woman to the High Priest, but no such corollary exists? 32 For God has shut up all mankind together in disobedience, in order that he might show mercy to all. Faith without works is sterile ..it can not reproduce . As with other Hebrew Roots groups, many Christians consider 119 ministries a cult. Im currently composing another article in response to your earlier question about did Jesus lie in Matthew 5:17-19. I choose to believe his words are twisted by people taking snippets of passages out of context and without considering the audience to whom Paul was writing. The Mechilzedek priesthood being superior to the Aaronic, to be clear. 30 For the One we know is the One who said, Yep, lots to consider here. BTW if you thing the feasts have been done away with then why in Zach do we see where ALL mankind in the New Millennium are to observe the Feast of Tabernacles? He taught from the heart about mans heart. Is it deception by that point? In fact I believe that. The glazed brussels sprouts and blackened Ahi Tuna were amazing, but I digress.. The waitress took our order then later brought our meal and served it. I understand what you are saying Leah, however, your perception and what you call free could be interpreted as doing what is right in your eyes. I showed them many scriptures. The domination of the Romans and Greeks took over and their antisemitic views hijacked Christianity.. (Torah) His commandments are Not grievous as He says ..My yoke is easy , my burden is light . Consider that Moses was righteous in the eyes of Elohim. The Vatican hates the Torah because it stands in the way of the Roman Catholic clergys blatant attempts to infiltrate the true Body of the Messiah Yeshua and do grave damage. So, many of these 33,000 Christian denominations are WRONG! And how is it wrong to keep the Sabbath that God told us to keep (not Rome) especially when the Apostle are noted in 8 different places in the Epistles of KEEPING the 7th day Sabbath. In fact, a true Judaizer is more interested in my observance of the Talmud writings than in my observance of the written Tanakh (OT): see Matthew chapter 15 and Mark chapter 7. While we dont celebrate Christmas and Easter, neither do we condemn Christians who do In fact, at Christmas, we sang a few Christmas songs. Ive seen so many changes in the last 3 decades in Christendom. Wilber and McKee, and apparently 119 Ministries, now, have to change the meaning of submission and who Yeshua was in submission to so they can slide in their egalitarian/feminist fallacy and Marxist agenda. I was not attacking you personally with no facts on the arguments ( ad hominem). The false teaching continues on page 4: This is the latter! Eating clean followed shortly after when the family fully woke up and decided to simply love Him and obey Him they way He asked us to. Was Peter really the first pope? Jews live by trusting faith in the wisdom of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The whole of Scripture speaks with one voice, man is and always has been more accountable and responsible for the ladies. 23 Then Yeshua addressed the crowds and his talmidim (disciples): 2 The Torah-teachers (scribes) and the Prushim (Pharisees), he said, sit in the seat of Moshe. But I will give it a read when I can. God forbid the men you referenced enter into Islam instead of HR. They are wonderful to celebrate because Jesus is in the details of those feasts. Go study all of Jesuss teachings then ask yourself, WHY do the majority of his teachings come directly from the Torah? Afterwards, let us know what you think of 119 Ministries. But many wives? So Leah, Ill leave you with this question. He did it for His reasons. And as long as you keep studying the Scriptures with a Greco-Roman mindset, you will always miss the mark and you will always misunderstand what those of 119 Ministries are saying regarding the very biblical phrase: test everything. Im almost a senior. 15 For if their casting Yeshua aside means reconciliation for the world, what will their accepting him mean? We have eternal life with/through Him. Amen. There just is no room for love in the 119 teachings. As for claiming someone does not teach in love is a matter of perception. matthew jones mock draft 2022. 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